(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[Confucius Cup]PW[Oh Chi-Min]PB[Fan Hui]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2015-02-07]RO[2]PC[Dublin]C[IrishGo [-\]: Live stream: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
IrishGo [-\]: the round starts at 2 pm
IrishGo [-\]: we will be starting in a few minutes
just9x9 [-\]: the crowd is ready :)
tortuga [6k\]: is this the game muttley says?
IrishGo [-\]: it is, yes
IrishGo [-\]: Fan Hui was here for a moment
IrishGo [-\]: and wandered to review someone else's game
lion [3d\]: why is fan only 7d
TDK [1d?\]: it's what happens when you reach max level
tortuga [6k\]: :)
IrishGo [-\]: they played a very close game with Matthew Macfadyen in round 1
just9x9 [-\]: yes, there was a ko i heard :)
Muttley [2k\]: He uses his European rather than Chinese pro rank
IrishGo [-\]: Oh Chi Min is here
just9x9 [-\]: oh oh oh chi min
IrishGo [-\]: Fan Hui is here as well
IrishGo [-\]: now he left
IrishGo [-\]: how exciting, eh?
tortuga [6k\]: muttley are you a pro-admin?
TDK [1d?\]: typical irish folk dance
Javaness [2d\]: difficult to sit at the table
Muttley [2k\]: No, I'm god
tortuga [6k\]: cool
IrishGo [-\]: Live stream: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
Muttley [2k\]: Gods don't get paid :)
Muttley [2k\]: well, demi-god anyway
Javaness [2d\]: fanhui had a shaky start, he will need to be on his gaurd to win this game and retain his title
Muttley [2k\]: Where is Oh Chi-Min based?
IrishGo [-\]: He says he studies in UK
IrishGo [-\]: originally from South Korea
Muttley [2k\]: Ah, thanks, I wondered
Muttley [2k\]: thank you for relaying, IrishGo
Muttley [2k\]: Good luck from KGS :))
isbhal [3d\]: no sound on the video ?
IrishGo [-\]: it should be back
IrishGo [-\]: we are starting
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;B[pp]
;W[pd]
;B[dp]
;W[dd]
;B[cl]C[Muttley [2k\]: awesome
IrishGo [-\]: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
IrishGo [-\]: live streaming above
Javaness [2d\]: never saw this opening idea before
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;W[jq]C[Lukan [-\]: isnt last black's move C7?
isbhal [3d\]: lol
Lukan [-\]: that move is weird
Javaness [2d\]: I think D4 is at D3
isbhal [3d\]: so fun
isbhal [3d\]: nice stream
IrishGo [-\]: yes
IrishGo [-\]: i'll fix it
Lukan [-\]: or D4 is at D3
Muttley [2k\]: might be a good idea :)
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;AE[dp]AB[dq][lq]C[DJhGO [2k\]: are they playing chinese chess in background?
Muttley [2k\]: uh, you might want to undo and put the right sequence in
Prodigious [-\]: yeah, i was about to comment that black's corner stones seem to be at a different height
DJhGO [2k\]: xingqi
Muttley [2k\]: or go back, rather than change a stone
bennylava [1k\]: Chi Min is playing!! =)
Muttley [2k\]: maybe too late now
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;B[]
;W[fq]C[Javaness [2d\]: i can here the organiser whispering
Muttley [2k\]: q4 q16 q3 d16 c8 k3 m3 f3
rorywales [?\]: No you can't
Javaness [2d\]: :)
arczi87 [1d\]: one color go in the background ?
Muttley [2k\]: d3, not q3 sorry
Lukan [-\]: C14 not exchanged? or isn't white's stone on komoku?
Muttley [2k\]: q4 q16 d3 d16 c8 k3 m3 f3
DJhGO [2k\]: no it is xiangqi behind, they move their stones
Muttley [2k\]: Chinese Chess
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;B[do]
;W[hp]C[lion [3d\]: maybe you could turn down luminosity or something so we can see the grid ? ^_^
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;B[qf]
;W[qh]C[IrishGo [-\]: can't do much.. sorry 
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;B[qc]
;W[qd]
;B[pc]
;W[od]
;B[rd]
;W[re]
;B[rc]
;W[qe]
;B[nc]C[lion [3d\]: ok nvm it's a detail we have the board here :)
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;W[nq]C[isbhal [3d\]: i like  black 
isbhal [3d\]: now let's see the fight 
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;B[qn]C[Javaness [2d\]: Mr Oh will have nothing to do in Durham apart from play Go
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;W[pq]
;B[qq]
;W[qr]
;B[oq]
;W[pr]
;B[op]
;W[or]C[bennylava [1k\]: Is there an Irish Go Association and maybe a homepage where I can check for tournaments?
IrishGo [-\]: www.irish-go.org
isbhal [3d\]: r11
bennylava [1k\]: thank you :)
isbhal [3d\]: r11 = ok 
Javaness [2d\]:  http://www.irish-go.org/2015-irish-go-chinese-chess-congress/
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;B[np]
;W[qp]
;B[rq]
;W[rp]
;B[qo]
;W[rr]
;B[qj]
;W[cf]C[sarmale [7k\]: I miss this tournament... :) nice people and nice town and nice beer
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;B[pf]C[Seijuro [7k\]: Black was waiting for his opponent to leave his chair to strike :p
Horia [-\]: they are afk in the streaming ^^
just9x9 [-\]: just s14? or is that too submissive?
just9x9 [-\]: or s13 better locally?
beerslayer [-\]: hmmm is w s14 not so obvious as it might seem
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;W[rg]
;B[ph]
;W[qi]C[beerslayer [-\]: i think w doing well but this still favors b if he pushes
lion [3d\]: b can't double hane it seems
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;B[pi]
;W[rj]
;B[qk]
;W[rk]
;B[ql]C[lion [3d\]: can't wait to see how b uses his big wall
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;W[cj]
;B[nd]
;W[ne]C[lion [3d\]: would feel uncomfortable as b
DJhGO [2k\]: fan hui's soft agression is quite interesting vs. chi-min's calm style
IrishGo [-\]: is the live streaming still available?
gogonuts [4d\]: no
lion [3d\]: not for me
gogonuts [4d\]: just went down
Seijuro [7k\]: nope
romain [1k\]: indeed
IrishGo [-\]: just a couple of seconds please
IrishGo [-\]: what about now?
rinkaio [1k\]: is Oh chi-min pro too ?
lion [3d\]: ok back
gogonuts [4d\]: now its back
romain [1k\]: up again
beerslayer [-\]: soft aggression like a mean old lady who slowly pokes at you with her big darning needle huh
IrishGo [-\]: sorry about that lads
lion [3d\]: no he isn't
rinkaio [1k\]: thx lion
IrishGo [-\]: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
Pillan [1k\]: poeta Oh chimin!
gogonuts [4d\]: is o14 possible, or is it insane?
rinkaio [1k\]: so nice the direct
Seijuro [7k\]: how much time left on each clock ?
just9x9 [-\]: if o14 is insane, what is p15 then? :)
lion [3d\]: feels like the kinda good idea strong players love to refute
gogonuts [4d\]: lol
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;B[oe]C[rorywales [?\]: Standings After Round 1: http://www.irish-go.org/2015-confucius-cup-go-results-round-1/
gogonuts [4d\]: wow
IrishGo [-\]: fan hui 33 mins
gogonuts [4d\]: o14 was too soft
lion [3d\]: oh still cut
lion [3d\]: wow
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;W[of]C[CieCie [1k\]: b + r I fear
IrishGo [-\]: Oh 50 mins
lion [3d\]: no way
Seijuro [7k\]: thanks
just9x9 [-\]: o14 now :)
gogonuts [4d\]: god
DJhGO [2k\]: ciecie, you might should think about the time variable
DJhGO [2k\]: fan hui uses his time a lot while chimin does not(yet)
CieCie [1k\]: nope
CieCie [1k\]: Fans got this in the bag
gogonuts [4d\]: no
gogonuts [4d\]: this is pretty hard to handle for b
rinkaio [1k\]: w left
just9x9 [-\]: i would leave too as w
Maisha [2k\]: whats wrong with just connecting?
Burton [6k\]: how much does p 14 limit the value of b's wall?
CieCie [1k\]: none
just9x9 [-\]: p14 adds value as an attacking goal
cambodia [5k\]: connect, q13
gogonuts [4d\]: b isnt keeping w out of the center like he may have hoped
Burton [6k\]: Thanks
CieCie [1k\]: q13 doesnt doesnt connect
rinkaio [1k\]: w took a good tea
Maisha [2k\]: q13 p13
lion [3d\]: nope, just squeeze plus live in sente
lion [3d\]: then fight
tortuga [6k\]: game on?
CieCie [1k\]: wish I could s14 ~_~
IrishGo [-\]: live streaming: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
nonosse [2k?\]: b thinking on tenuki?
Aristotle [?\]: as b, I would play p13
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;B[pe]C[cambodia [5k\]: ??
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;W[rf]C[CieCie [1k\]: to atari or to connect
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;B[me]
;W[ic]C[CieCie [1k\]: to atari
gogonuts [4d\]: s14 is painfully subtle :-)
lion [3d\]: oh wow
eleven21: o15 was just a failure
CieCie [1k\]: says the quest
lion [3d\]: you are a failure as a kibitzer
CieCie [1k\]: without any reason
rinkaio [1k\]: eleven21 you are so wrong
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;B[ie]C[eleven21: why?
nonosse [2k?\]: well he won a troll prize
Maisha [2k\]: a statement that something is a failure needs reasoning
cambodia [5k\]: white is out, no?
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;W[ec]C[Maisha [2k\]: no
lion [3d\]: they are both playing ahead of the obvious moves
cambodia [5k\]: w Q13?
CieCie [1k\]: I demand k6
Squiggles [1k\]: black needs to do something with that wall now yeah?
eleven21: o15 is useless now. i think it's clear
nonosse [2k?\]: h4 group is perfectly strong here
rinkaio [1k\]: b moyo vs w points
rinkaio [1k\]: as always
AndEdhel [4k\]: oh is really strong (and i am Fan's fan :/)
gogonuts [4d\]: o15 bought w sente, compared to s14 right away - you cant just judge be the fact its almost captured
eleven21: by o15 w got something?
lion [3d\]: w can do this anytime, but will not until b's removing this aji is big enough
CieCie [1k\]: o15 was already used
lion [3d\]: right now it must be too slow i guess
Pillan [1k\]: but if b plays h2 H4 is not so strong 
eleven21: but black's moyo bocame big 
CieCie [1k\]: h2?
CieCie [1k\]: thats suicide
CieCie [1k\]: you're going to lose your moyo
gogonuts [4d\]: oh is making maximum use of h4 - hes counting on blighting the center with it
lion [3d\]: fan always says "there's nothing in the center" :)
Chicken [4k\]: with o15 w can invade b no?
eleven21: if w wanted to play top, he could just play j17
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;B[jp]C[IrishGo [-\]: live stream: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
CieCie [1k\]: he did eleven
CieCie [1k\]: in sente
lion [3d\]: at some point, b might want to sacrifice those 4 stones if w ataris
blublublu [4k\]: no way
Chicken [4k\]: y
just9x9 [-\]: there is still q13 o14 p13 for w to reduce
Chicken [4k\]: for the moyo
Squiggles [1k\]: A13, O14, P13, O12?
r0n1n [3k\]: lol
Squiggles [1k\]: err Q13
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;W[ip]
;B[jo]
;W[kq]C[CieCie [1k\]: thats really small though
CieCie [1k\]: q13 p13 o12 
Maisha [2k\]: wq13 bo14 wp13 b012. White contained
TyTaLuS [1k\]: those stones seem really big
TyTaLuS [1k\]: what size are them?
nonosse [2k?\]: C12/G17 should bedome the focus
nonosse [2k?\]: become
gogonuts [4d\]: i dont think b has the time to answer L3
gogonuts [4d\]: has to somehow keep painting a big center
CieCie [1k\]: maybe h6
miao [6d\]: m4 is huge
miao [6d\]: ...
rinkaio [1k\]: o15 lot of adji
CieCie [1k\]: nah
CieCie [1k\]: m4 is a good sacrifice for a bigger corner
CieCie [1k\]: center*
gogonuts [4d\]: but b m4 and w has a freee move to deflate the center?
lion [3d\]: locally, m4 or 5 ?
CieCie [1k\]: h6
Aristotle [?\]: h12?
nonosse [2k?\]: i was searching which corner :{
CieCie [1k\]: i corrected myself
just9x9 [-\]: typo, you hit the corner key instead of the center key, happens :)
AndEdhel [4k\]: l4 possible here
CieCie [1k\]: technically s3 becomes a big corner engulfing the sides with m4
CieCie [1k\]: no
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;B[jk]C[CieCie [1k\]: l4 is not
miao [6d\]: I don´t agree
rinkaio [1k\]: nice
just9x9 [-\]: k9 omg, if i use my walls like this i tend to lose
nonosse [2k?\]: J9 only? i am desapointed
CieCie [1k\]: I guess Fan Couted
CieCie [1k\]: counted*
rinkaio [1k\]: for sure Fan counted
romain [1k\]: i guess he counted almost 20 times since the beginning of the game
AndEdhel [4k\]: you can count on it
OIiver [4k\]: too small K 10 is better
miao [6d\]: not so sure Fan counted
Aristotle [?\]: w can play q13, o14, p13, o12 anytime
just9x9 [-\]: 20 times at every move :)
nonosse [2k?\]: J10 oliver
eleven21: w's territories are solid, b must make points at the center
CieCie [1k\]: yes congratz aristotle we went over that
Cornelius [2d?\]: not sure indeed, he is very bad at counting, as he said...
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;W[lp]
;B[lo]C[romain [1k\]: very bad at counting means way better than any of us for a pro ...
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;W[kp]C[lion [3d\]: indeed :)
CieCie [1k\]: well its not hard when whites territory is solid
IrishGo [-\]: 19 min Fan vs 45 min Oh
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;B[ko]
;W[mp]
;B[mo]C[CieCie [1k\]: W + T
rinkaio [1k\]: lol
just9x9 [-\]: side became big
nonosse [2k?\]: so he counted
miao [6d\]: as anyone the livestream?
gogonuts [4d\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfyFIiR1qqY&feature=youtu.be
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;W[ig]C[IrishGo [-\]: live stream: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
CieCie [1k\]: and let the games begin
Gor [2d\]: b needs to make 40 pts with his moyo?
just9x9 [-\]: wow, was going to say j13 then thought, nah, it sucks :)
gogonuts [4d\]: tough competition for eurogo :-)
CieCie [1k\]: j13 is good move why would you thik that?
nonosse [2k?\]: this center is 30 points only
romain [1k\]: j13 nice question indeed
just9x9 [-\]: too standard i thought
rinkaio [1k\]: In order to win, w need b to lose I tink
CieCie [1k\]: its right on blacks line, and its uncomfortable to asnwer
gogonuts [4d\]: b wants a revolution
gogonuts [4d\]: but how?
CieCie [1k\]: in order to win, w needs more points then black
CieCie [1k\]: by playing obserd moves
just9x9 [-\]: obserd?
just9x9 [-\]: absurd?
AndEdhel [4k\]: l15 honte
kmr [1d\]: white have reduction move Q13-O14-P13 and black cant cut at R13
romain [1k\]: the fact is, if black encloses the moyo he claimed and white in exchange gets the whole top left quarter of the board, black lose ...
IrishGo [-\]: live stream: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
CieCie [1k\]: no romain
CieCie [1k\]: if that was the case white would have f14 area too
cambodia [5k\]: l16?
rorywales [?\]: Stadings After Round 1: http://www.irish-go.org/2015-confucius-cup-go-results-round-1/
lion [3d\]: h13 is my final guess :)
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;B[hc]C[CieCie [1k\]: haha
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;W[hb]C[CieCie [1k\]: wrong direction black says
lion [3d\]: damn you fan :)
IrishGo [-\]: the live stream is around 30 secs behind
nonosse [2k?\]: means b wants to capture J13?
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;B[hd]C[Seijuro [7k\]: or j17
lion [3d\]: haha when a good player contacts, it NEVER means he wants to capture
rinkaio [1k\]: k15
DJhGO [2k\]: is it still 30 point in the middle?
romain [1k\]: ciecie : F14 area was what i meant by top left quarter of the board :) thus black cannot just enclose
CieCie [1k\]: not true lion
nonosse [2k?\]: where do you get that from, lion?
lion [3d\]: from myself
CieCie [1k\]: sometimes you have to contact to win a capturing race
lion [3d\]: it's my opinion :)
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;W[gb]C[nonosse [2k?\]: ok i understand better then
romain [1k\]: lion : he did not contact J13 though
Aristotle [?\]: j18, threat k15
Aristotle [?\]: didn't do it
IrishGo [-\]: Fan 15 mins Oh 43 mins
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;B[jc]
;W[jb]C[IrishGo [-\]: Oh stopped the clock to wait Fan's return
Seijuro [7k\]: nice
Thorvald [5k\]: nice
IrishGo [-\]: very fairplay
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;B[id]
;W[kc]C[TurtleDove [2k?\]: didn't W play at the EGC last summer ?
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;B[ib]
;W[ia]C[CieCie [1k\]:     did he get bathroom sickness
lion [3d\]: w is very strong at ko fights
CieCie [1k\]: l16 j17 g13 k16 l15 
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;B[kd]
;W[ic]C[IrishGo [-\]: Cie Cie do you have a crystal ball over there?
CieCie [1k\]: I wish
CieCie [1k\]: Its just what I want to happen
CieCie [1k\]: make the game more insteresting
IrishGo [-\]: I was kidding :)
CieCie [1k\]: No you werent dont lie
IrishGo [-\]: Fan Hui 10 mins
gogonuts [4d\]: d13?
IrishGo [-\]: Live stream: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
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;B[dg]C[gogonuts [4d\]: yes
gogonuts [4d\]: :-)
CieCie [1k\]: nice
IrishGo [-\]: well done gogonuts
nonosse [2k?\]: good guess
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;W[jd]C[lion [3d\]: tenuki fight ! :D
CieCie [1k\]: not just a guess an educated guess
CieCie [1k\]: no black will respond locally has
CieCie [1k\]: to
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;B[ke]C[CieCie [1k\]: only got d13 wrong :/
]
;W[fg]C[IrishGo [-\]: live stream: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
lion [3d\]: wow
IrishGo [-\]: ...
CieCie [1k\]: strong moves
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;B[df]C[Aristotle [?\]: i'd preferred e12
CieCie [1k\]: ?
Aristotle [?\]: for white
CieCie [1k\]: good way to create bad shape
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;W[cg]C[nonosse [2k?\]: dont forget b doesnt want to capture J13
AndEdhel [4k\]: doesnt, or didn't?  ^^
nonosse [2k?\]: well both
romain [1k\]: he don't really need to capture it as long as he encloses and still reduce the area between J13 and corner
IrishGo [-\]: Fan is looking in that direction now ...
lion [3d\]: who said he did not want to capture
nonosse [2k?\]: :)
IrishGo [-\]: live stream: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
CieCie [1k\]: nonosse did
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;B[dh]C[lion [3d\]: oh, i thought b would hane here
nonosse [2k?\]: means b wants to capture J13? Move 73 Seijuro [7k\]: or j17 lion [3d\]: haha when a good player contacts, it NEVER means he wants to capture
Seijuro [7k\]: black will have to play fast very soon
lion [3d\]: i mean the contacted stone, obviously...
lion [3d\]: meant*
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;W[bi]C[nonosse [2k?\]: J13 was not contact stone. haha
cambodia [5k\]: f15?
lion [3d\]: (literally) missread that sorry.
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;B[de]
;W[ce]
;B[fe]C[nonosse [2k?\]: nvm
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;W[ij]C[AndEdhel [4k\]: the moyo just grew quite a lot
IrishGo [-\]: live stream: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
Seijuro [7k\]: ok now let's play :)
CieCie [1k\]: the moyo is slowly being reduced
nonosse [2k?\]: b just built influence all along never split so yes should go for a huge fight now or never
IrishGo [-\]: B 5 minutes remaining
cambodia [5k\]: l11?
AndEdhel [4k\]: l11 seems nice
CieCie [1k\]: Takemiya lives on
lion [3d\]: a bit submissive maybe ?
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;B[jj]
;W[ji]C[nonosse [2k?\]: L11 too small maybe yes
Burton [6k\]: takemiya is really still alive right?
lion [3d\]: yeah :)
Burton [6k\]: thanks
CieCie [1k\]: talking about the style no the people name takemiya
lion [3d\]: would clamp
Kretzsche [4k\]: and cain lives
DJhGO [2k\]: but this isnt takemiya, this is only a moyo game
Lilltiger [-\]: cosmic go
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;B[jh]C[nonosse [2k?\]: w has quite a nice shape already
IrishGo [-\]: (boom)
Kretzsche [4k\]: but b is very thick
tantrika [4k\]: O_O
Burton [6k\]: I anted to make sure that the player Takemiya was still alive
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;W[ii]
;B[ki]C[CieCie [1k\]: I dont think that stone was out of intimidation
CieCie [1k\]: looked like he was frustrated
Aristotle [?\]: because of the aji of p14 b can only make points south-east of the center
Kretzsche [4k\]: well if w needs to live in sente
CieCie [1k\]: what are you saying
Kretzsche [4k\]: b can fix
Kretzsche [4k\]: i mean in gote
Maisha [2k\]: bq13 about 15 points gote
nonosse [2k?\]: yep in gote
Maisha [2k\]: maybe a bit more
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;W[ik]C[Aristotle [?\]: I'd rather have b11 on e11; too low
Lilltiger [-\]: w can probly q13 right now
tantrika [4k\]: what's the "time" situation of the players ?
CieCie [1k\]: color changed
IrishGo [-\]: B has 2 minutes
lion [3d\]: oh nice old school streaming here
IrishGo [-\]: W has 39 minutes
Kretzsche [4k\]: e2 should be bigger than q13?
CieCie [1k\]: its back
IrishGo [-\]: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
tantrika [4k\]: Ok thx Irrish
AndEdhel [4k\]: q13 is not the subject here. b could even tenuki
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;B[il]C[nonosse [2k?\]: is E2 not bigger as Q13, Lilltiger?
IrishGo [-\]: we have a black and white webcam
IrishGo [-\]: (budget cuts)
choirgirl [1k\]: how is this old school streaming? I didn't even know there was a new school
AndEdhel [4k\]: not k8??
Gigot [2k\]: Thx Irishgo
nonosse [2k?\]: P18 is big too?
gogonuts [4d\]: lol, irish
Lilltiger [-\]: q13 ends in pretty much sente, e2 is big but can be treated as gote
Aristotle [?\]: b about to play q13
Alife361 [1k?\]: Game is so dramatic that stream became b/w....
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;W[kh]C[eleven21: now i realized that when b played o16 w's right side was danger. but he got the life in sente. i'm sorry i was wrong.
narugo [2d\]: looks like w winning
choirgirl [1k\]: oh, it was still coming in colour when the old school comment appeared. Oh well, not important.
gogonuts [4d\]: can we haz color back?
AndEdhel [4k\]: k8 looked better for b... how can he prevent w breaking through now?
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;B[kg]C[CieCie [1k\]: soon the webcam will have them wearing acient robes. and be sitting in seiza
Aristotle [?\]: risky cut
rinkaio [1k\]: colour ahain
IrishGo [-\]: how much of a lag do you guys get on video?
gogonuts [4d\]: now
gogonuts [4d\]: that was L13
Chicken [4k\]: none
Alife361 [1k?\]: L13 just appeared
IrishGo [-\]: ok, not much, great
lion [3d\]: just saw the point of cutting
lion [3d\]: nice
Lilltiger [-\]: Is there a non.flsh version of the stream?
Thorvald [5k\]: I'm sharing a wi-fi in a camping in Australia, so big lag for me
nonosse [2k?\]: no youtu.be here but nvm
Lilltiger [-\]: non-flash
]
;W[pg]C[rinkaio [1k\]: nice
IrishGo [-\]: Lilltiger, can you use the html5 youtube player?
nonosse [2k?\]: naybe time to try to kill w?
Seijuro [7k\]: 20sec between KGS moves and youtube feedback
lion [3d\]: w is alive
]
;B[lh]C[AndEdhel [4k\]: i knew b woukd tenuki
nonosse [2k?\]: like F10?
AndEdhel [4k\]: e10?
Kretzsche [4k\]: its not really tenuki
Lilltiger [-\]: IrishGo: I think i can, but when it tries with the flash one the browser just crashes so cant go to the htl5 version :/
]
;W[ej]C[AndEdhel [4k\]: o14 now maybe
IrishGo [-\]: black now down to 4 byo-yomi periords
]
;B[ih]C[IrishGo [-\]: *periods
Thorvald [5k\]: 1 min by yomi ?
]
;W[hh]C[IrishGo [-\]: 30 seconds
Seijuro [7k\]: it's time for instinct moves !
Thorvald [5k\]: ty
choirgirl [1k\]: these guys can read out a lot in 30 secs, Seijuro :-)
cambodia [5k\]: h11
lion [3d\]: the game looks close
]
;B[gj]C[nonosse [2k?\]: pre calculated moves , seijuro
Seijuro [7k\]: sure T_T
IrishGo [-\]: Lilltiger: did you try youtube.com/html5 ?
martin97 [-\]: well thiis is instinct move
IrishGo [-\]: this should skip flash altogether
Kretzsche [4k\]: would he prepare an insinct move with j12?
AndEdhel [4k\]: nothing aroung g15?
]
;W[fi]
;B[nf]
;W[og]C[AndEdhel [4k\]: g14
]
;B[hi]C[lion [3d\]: i place my bet on b
rinkaio [1k\]: me too
rinkaio [1k\]: b is very very good in yose
gogonuts [4d\]: b really has picked up decent points
gogonuts [4d\]: w must wonder what went wrong
AndEdhel [4k\]: q14 was a trap... cost w a lot up to here
gogonuts [4d\]: b was looking desparate
]
;W[oi]
;B[oh]
;W[nh]
;B[pj]
;W[ng]C[gogonuts [4d\]: desperate i mean :-)
Gigot [2k\]: It is still close, isn't it ?
IrishGo [-\]: live stream: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
gogonuts [4d\]: close again
]
;B[ni]
;W[mi]
;B[nj]C[gogonuts [4d\]: w looked like walking away with it
Lilltiger [-\]: IrishGo: it says all i supported, but I will upgrade my system, quite a while ago i did :) (runing linux)
]
;W[mh]C[lion [3d\]: i think b has slight advantage but well
]
;B[mj]C[rinkaio [1k\]: e2
nonosse [2k?\]: p18 or e2
Gigot [2k\]: even with komi?
lion [3d\]: d2 better
Lice [4d\]: e2? you cowards
DesMites [4k\]: c6 ?
Cornelius [2d?\]: E2 is so big
lion [3d\]: c6 i like
AndEdhel [4k\]: c6 could be possible
IrishGo [-\]: B in byoyomi 3 times  left
kmr [1d\]: C6 is sharp no doubt
Lice [4d\]: c6 c5  no gain
IrishGo [-\]: W 30 minutes
Lice [4d\]: should go c4
Kretzsche [4k\]: you have to be able to read in order to play sucha move :D
nonosse [2k?\]: c6 can give b a few points outside too
Aristotle [?\]: w seems ahead
martin97 [-\]: even game on board?
Pillan [1k\]: c7 bor W not?
lion [3d\]: rly ?
Lilltiger [-\]: i have b ahead by about 5 points
kmr [1d\]: c6-c5-c7 and white cant be killed i think
Lice [4d\]: oh no he can't be killed? how sad
martin97 [-\]: well its w turn
TurtleDove [2k?\]: I thought fairly level after last count about 68 each
IrishGo [-\]: B has three prisoners
IrishGo [-\]: live stream: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
Gigot [2k\]: white has sente for yosé
]
;W[cm]C[Kretzsche [4k\]: ha! all wrong
lion [3d\]: close enough :p
Pillan [1k\]: lol
rinkaio [1k\]: seriously
nonosse [2k?\]: Pillan ++
IrishGo [-\]: B 30s 2 times
Gigot [2k\]: Was this really necessary?
]
;B[dm]C[narugo [2d\]: i counted white ahead half point
AndEdhel [4k\]: d7?
]
;W[bl]C[lion [3d\]: if it happens we'll all give you a cookie narugo
Lice [4d\]: so bad for w
kmr [1d\]: B in time trouble, sb said W+T and it might be true lol
Lice [4d\]: he had so much aji
Thorvald [5k\]: I like cookie
]
;B[cn]
;W[bm]C[Gigot [2k\]: a browser cookie?
nonosse [2k?\]: would be sad to lose on time
rinkaio [1k\]: tenuki for the sente
]
;B[gh]
;W[fh]
;B[bn]
;W[er]
;B[dr]
;W[ds]
;B[cs]
;W[es]
;B[br]C[lion [3d\]: i betted on b too soon, afréaid to lose now
IrishGo [-\]: W 28 minutes
]
;W[hn]C[IrishGo [-\]: live stream: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
]
;B[ch]
;W[bh]
;B[dk]C[Lowlander [2k\]: white will win, there is no doubt
Gigot [2k\]: both players are strong at yose
AndEdhel [4k\]: g14
]
;W[di]
;B[hg]
;W[mb]
;B[nb]C[AndEdhel [4k\]: w started yose, he will win :(
Kretzsche [4k\]: tbh it seems w is much better with his yose, might be his nice position though
lion [3d\]: why did w d11 ?
Lowlander [2k\]: was p18 possible for w?
Chicken [4k\]: j7 ?
]
;W[im]
;B[jl]C[Gigot [2k\]: P18 P17 O19 M18
]
;W[li]
;B[lj]C[Kretzsche [4k\]: and now h9 :D
]
;W[rl]C[nonosse [2k?\]: d11 for 1 lib less 1 potentiial point more
lion [3d\]: h9 g7 i guess
swedish1k [6d\]: w win
]
;B[ro]
;W[sq]
;B[rm]C[DnbK: But B is Fan Hui, how is that possible?
]
;W[gf]C[martin97 [-\]: h9?
Kretzsche [4k\]: because w is oh chi min?
martin97 [-\]: b isoh chi min thats how
]
;B[fd]C[Mollusque3 [3d\]: Oh Chimin has pro level
]
;W[lg]C[Gigot [2k\]: Everything is dame around F6?
]
;B[kh]C[IrishGo [-\]: live stream: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
DnbK: W is 1p?
]
;W[lb]
;B[fc]
;W[fb]C[Gigot [2k\]: Fan Hui also has pro level
]
;B[ed]
;W[dc]C[Kretzsche [4k\]: i though oh is amateur
]
;B[sl]C[lion [3d\]: he is
lion [3d\]: and fan is 2 dan pro
]
;W[qg]C[Kretzsche [4k\]: i thought he is 3p
]
;B[ne]C[DnbK: And even if they "have pro level", whatever that means, there's a huge difference between the go associations and their skill levels.
]
;W[sk]
;B[sm]
;W[ri]C[apina [1d\]: Fan Hui is 2p
Thorvald [5k\]: gonna be so close
lion [3d\]: fanhui [2p\]
lion [3d\]: on KGS
AndEdhel [4k\]: kind of was 2p, in 2000 ^^ bu he teaches a lot in france, no time to train seriously
]
;B[bk]C[DnbK: 2p under which association?
]
;W[ck]
;B[dl]
;W[bj]C[Kretzsche [4k\]: then i must mix it up with alexandre dinerstein
lion [3d\]: chinese
martin97 [-\]: china
]
;B[hm]C[DnbK: W is also under the Chinese association?
martin97 [-\]: why didnt w h9?
apina [1d\]: Oh Chi-Min haven't passed any pro exam, if we trust EGF ratings
lion [3d\]: w is korean and is not pro
]
;W[in]C[AndEdhel [4k\]: e3
apina [1d\]: or isn't pro
Thorvald [5k\]: be3 ?
bcvxx: he is a politician
]
;B[fp]
;W[gp]C[cambodia [5k\]: a korean named Oh Chi-Min?
Mollusque3 [3d\]: W is not pro (he failed pro exam in korea but was yongusaeng for many years) but he has a pro level
]
;B[eq]
;W[gr]C[Kretzsche [4k\]: if he failed the exam can he have pro level?
apina [1d\]: his strength is for sure at least equal with european pros, but that doesn't matter
swedish1k [6d\]: w + 7-8 
]
;B[fo]
;W[fk]C[apina [1d\]: Kretzsche, who said, he has failed exam?
Mollusque3 [3d\]: because in korean 8 yongusaeng turn pro over 200
]
;B[gm]C[Gigot [2k\]: to be a Korean pro is hard
Kretzsche [4k\]: mollusque said so
]
;W[na]
;B[ob]C[apina [1d\]: oh, yes he said
apina [1d\]: sorry
]
;W[lf]C[IrishGo [-\]: live stream: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
Mollusque3 [3d\]: I know this because he is my teacher since a few month :)
]
;B[ek]
;W[fj]C[apina [1d\]: but of course it's possible
]
;B[fl]
;W[gk]
;B[hk]C[bcvxx: kretz,if I fail a NASA test, that means anyway that prob I'm a good pilot
]
;W[hf]
;B[if]C[apina [1d\]: you can fail exam and get better after that
Kretzsche [4k\]: yea but not nasa level pilot
]
;W[gn]
;B[fn]
;W[gl]C[Quazar [5k\]: Kretzsche +1
DnbK: You can also fail because of other things than your skill level not being high enough.
martin97 [-\]: but close enough if you have 49.5% and need 50
]
;B[am]
;W[ak]C[lion [3d\]: se says someone might get some cookies today
apina [1d\]: and even in that moment you can be better than some of those, who passed it
]
;B[je]C[nonosse [2k?\]: it just means you need better glasses
]
;W[hl]C[apina [1d\]: every exam has some variance
martin97 [-\]: in the last game its far more than only your skill lvl
Kretzsche [4k\]: well if every year there are 100 players that are "close enough" and 3 who manage, then maybe the level is just really really high, and close enough is not enough ;D
apina [1d\]: better player doesn't win every game
IrishGo [-\]: the players are playing too fast and lost track
Gigot [2k\]: Black F7
]
;B[fm]C[swedish1k [6d\]: f7 g11 h10 k6 l6 k7 l7 
]
;W[gi]
;B[hj]
;W[gg]
;B[hh]
;W[ef]
;B[ee]
;W[kf]
;B[jf]C[Gigot [2k\]: and P19
]
;W[jm]C[igaz [?\]: ,
]
;B[km]
;W[jn]
;B[kn]C[Squiggles [1k\]: looks like white wins by a few
swedish1k [6d\]: k17 
Squiggles [1k\]: according to se anyway :P
swedish1k [6d\]: p19 n19 t15 t14 t16 
]
;W[so]
;B[sn]
;W[eg]
;B[eh]
;W[ei]
;B[dj]
;W[ci]
;B[oa]
;W[ma]C[IrishGo [-\]: players are counting
]
;B[sp]
;W[mc]
;B[md]C[bcvxx: O.O
]
;W[mf]C[Kretzsche [4k\]: thanks irish go for transmission
]
;B[so]C[Gigot [2k\]: maybe k17 also
Aristotle [?\]: is k17 poisoned?
IrishGo [-\]: Results: W+5.5
nonosse [2k?\]: nice game. thanks for irishgo and the players
lion [3d\]: thanks !
martin97 [-\]: thanks, congrats
chagi [1d?\]: thanks IrishGo
Lowlander [2k\]: thank you
IrishGo [-\]: thank you guys ... players are comenting the game 
Lilltiger [-\]: thanks
Thorvald [5k\]: ty
IrishGo [-\]: live stream: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
bcvxx: so oh chi min is fan hui level of strenght
AndEdhel [4k\]: say hi to fan from fans, please ^^
Sunako [4k\]: oh chi min beat fan 2 times 
Kretzsche [4k\]: out of how many games?
Sunako [4k\]: don't know
Kretzsche [4k\]: will inseong be playing on a tournament soon again, too?
IrishGo [-\]: players are still commenting
AndEdhel [4k\]: this statistic sponsored by the Useless Statistic of the Day
lion [3d\]: who is the young french dude ?
Gigot [2k\]: White had a better yose preparation.
notevenbad [5k?\]: fan not in good form?
Kretzsche [4k\]: actually, are fan hui, in seong and oh chi min allowed to play in grand slam tournaments?
nonosse [2k?\]: b didnt attack enough
lion [3d\]: good question Kretzche
Sunako [4k\]: grand slam tournaments ?
Aristotle [?\]: too big a hole in his center moyo
IrishGo [-\]: players still commenting
IrishGo [-\]: live stream: http://youtu.be/QfyFIiR1qqY
Sunako [4k\]: what's grand slam tournaments ?
IrishGo [-\]: Csaba won, Pop lost 
lion [3d\]: big european tournaments sponsored by a chinese corporation
lion [3d\]: 10.000e prize for winner if i'm not mistaken
Sunako [4k\]: :o
lion [3d\]: e=€*
Sunako [4k\]: maybe 9p will come 
IrishGo [-\]: next round in 50 minutes
Sunako [4k\]: and won 10.000e
IrishGo [-\]: stay tunned on this user
lion [3d\]: they are not allowed i guess
Sunako [4k\]: oh-chi min and In-seong are not pro, so they must be threat like other non european players
Sunako [4k\]: but fan is pro
lion [3d\]: to be allowed to play in grand slam, you also have to cumulate point from playing in several european tournaments
Sunako [4k\]: ah
lion [3d\]: so foreigner pros don't have any interest in doing that whatsoever
IrishGo [-\]: THANK YOU 
Sunako [4k\]: thx
IrishGo [-\]: see you at 5
AndEdhel [4k\]: thx for the hello :) 
Janan [-\]: thanks
narugo [2d\]: can i get winner clearly
romain [1k\]: W by 5.5
narugo [2d\]: ty
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